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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Joomi, check out this one. Again, they really want this mRNA stuff to work. And I suspect that no scientist doing work right now is oblivious to how this cookie is crumbling. How to frame every study as hopeful, or promising, or just....lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10723515/Scientists-worlds-cure-heart-attacks-using-mRNA-technology-Covid-vaccines.html

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Brian @ NoSearch.org's avatar

Logical fallacies are how these people survive and operate. They are High Functioning Dark Triad, lying actively and passively is their only game.

Heck I imagine alkaline water kills cancer cells as well, and this might not kill you.

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

"This study was supported by grants for Yujiang Fang (Iowa Science Foundation Grant ISF 16-8, IOER 05-14-01, IOER 112-3749 and IOER 112-3104)."

off to ISF we go...

"Availability of grants

The ISF Grants Program is contingent on an appropriation from the Iowa Legislature, approval of the Governor and the availability of private and corporate support. Grants of up to $5,000 will be made for periods of one year."

ISF 16-08, Fang, The direct effect of IL-29 on proliferation, apoptosis and senescence of prostate cancer, Des Moines University, $2,667.97

Looks like Fang only got $2667.97?

Maybe you could interview him? Seems like he/she made quite a leap to a click-baity conclusion.

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Joomi Kim's avatar

It might not be about any conflicts of interests... I have a feeling the authors actually really believe their conclusion... which is kinda scary...

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

I think there is tremendous pressure to find a pony in the pile of horseshit that is these exp. injections.

Nobody...NO>Body doing research right now is not aware of this.

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Lisa@eatrealfood's avatar

Yes unfortunately science has been hijacked..the wild wild west out in pubmed.gov

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Dr Linda's avatar

I think there is an inherent conflict of interest in this whole mess. There is money to be had, you know how this grant process works. There is also the 15mins of fame which could help future grants. I know is cynical but I’ve been as many of you have as well

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Dr Linda's avatar

Well, it’s 15 minutes of fame for the Iowa Science Foundation. I wonder if the ubiquitous pesticide used on grains also increases apoptosis in prostate cells. Maybe that’s next, big advantage for Iowa corn producers and pesticide companies (you know who I mean).

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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

"Spike Protein: It's got what prostrate cells crave...it's got...electrolytes!"

Or something. It sounded better in my head...Sorry.

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Bigs's avatar

*ruffle

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Edwin's avatar

You know what else kills cancer cells, all of them 100% of the time?

It also kills Communism, 100% of the time.

“There ain’t many troubles that a man cain’t fix

With seven hundred dollars and a thirty aught six.”

― Jeff Cooper

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Modern Discontent's avatar

Papers like these are why CNN can post that COVID vaccines reduce all cause mortality and the public allows it. I'm starting to find out that researchers are extremely parochial. Whether intentional to avoid having their funding removed or whether to obfuscate a broader concept it feels like researchers don't quite grasp their research within the greater context of the topic as can be seen here.

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gatochapinmuertodehambre's avatar

Oops, ng/L is not the same thing as nM, not by a long shot. Mass per unit volume versus number of moles per unit volume.

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Joomi Kim's avatar

You're right, I totally forgot to convert the grams to moles. Corrected it (and rechecking my conversion)... Thanks for pointing it out, whew

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Datagal's avatar

I cannot believe this paper was even published! Has “the science” sunk that low? If it’s open for peer review, please send your excellent article to the authors.

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BaronD's avatar

The authors thonk that study titles get quoted a lot more than study contents, and having your papers quoted is good.

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Cassandra Bond's avatar

It's been a slippery slope for a LONG time. We were told that a high carbohydrate diet is good for diabetes. Yeah if you want to get worse diabetes. And we are told that saturated meats fats are bad and seed/vegetable oils are good for us. Yeah if you want to have heart attacks.

We were told we all need to be on statins, so most of the population are now on them and the side effects are bad and the good effects are extremely small. We are now told that meat protein is not nearly as good as plant protein. Something that we ate for thousands of years and why we got big brains. I could go on and on, but clearly the people of the worlds health is on a very fast spiral downwards. BUT we keep getting told our life is being extended. We are in the grip of big pharma, big tech, big garbage food companies, supported by our governments. It is becoming homogenous worldwide.

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TMartini67's avatar

😂😂😂 absolutely hilarious.. Thank you I needed a good laugh!! In my opinion it's like someone gets jabbed & then develops myocarditis, has a heart attack-and almost dies...my mom would say: " well imagine how much worse covid would be if they weren't jabbed?" No joke this is the logic behind this idiocy.. I like your story better though!! 😂😂

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Lisa@eatrealfood's avatar

Yes.hurry they may run out of the vxpired-cine. You spin me round round...

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