As someone infected in early March 2020 who went on to develop Long Covid (mostly resolved at 27 months) that included severe gastrointestinal involvement, I find this research interesting. I would be curious of any research into how this might may have played out in patients — specifically in the disease course, short and long term, for people infected with SARS-CoV2.
Feb 27, 2023·edited Feb 27, 2023Liked by Joomi Kim
So the researchers finally discovered something that my gut directly informed me about long ago, when I noticed that during a viral infection things often went awry in my gut.
Seriously, though, this is interesting and clarifying. I like clarifications. Thank you!
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🎯👏👏 thanks for drawing attention to these papers, I wouldn't have found them otherwise, as you said bit obscure journals compared to the usual publishing suspects.
I'd really like to see someone check the microbiome patterns of those vaccinated vs unvaccinated, plus BEFORE 2020 and AFTER 2020.
Could be more mutant drift than suggested.
Given our symbiotic relationship with the microbial world, I would hazard a guess that the bacteria etc, are intervening between SarsCov2 virae and ourselves from a benign perspective. Ie they maybe taking the damage for us, in an effort to minimise their hosts long term damage. Much like what they do with all the toxic substances in our food and environment. But let's hope so at least. The other alternative is far less appealing.
even more important, if this is true, then the gut might be acting as a reservoir for ongoing infection esp in LC patients. and perhaps it would explain the role of Antibiotics like azithromycin and doxy in treatment of acute covid?
"...the best way to create immunity against infection in the respiratory tract was to stimulate the gut immune system, whereby these activated cells migrate to the lung and make antibodies against organisms responsible for the infection."
Sabine Hazan, MD, is a gastroenterologist who studies this and has been shouting from the rooftops for almost 3 years that it’s all in the gut. I haven’t seen as much of her “shit” lately as I’m permanently banned from Twitter , but shes completed and has more studies in the works
Ethical Skeptic also noted the coincidence of the Midwest sludge spreading on the fields immediately preceded their massive spike in cases in fall 2020. The farms are assured that sludge (human poop) from waste water treatment plants are organic material for fertilizer and they spray it over the fields after the last crop harvests. In New England where I live, farmers use cow manure and spread it in the early spring as the snow melts. We don’t have the farms of that scale here! Happy for that.
And isn’t it interesting that there are studies showing the positive impact of drinking probiotic rich Kefir (fermented milk) - Kefir: A protective dietary supplementation against viral infection
Virology does not meet the basic criteria for science such as proper control experiments. When control experiments have been performed the results show evidence of a 'virus' (CPE / genome assembly) can be obtained without adding any sample containing a purported 'virus. For example Dr Stefan Lanka has 'found' the SARS CoV2 genome from a sample of pure yeast, using the exact same protocols and genomic assembly software that virologists use (Dr Lanka was himself a virologist until he realised viruses are just cellular debris).
Even kidney specialists have published articles warning virologists that the breakdown of kidney cells produces particles that are indistinguishable from 'coronaviruses'.
When you look at the history of viruses you find it was never scientific to begin with. It was a desperate attempt to prop up the already failing germ theory by inventing tiny pathogens that nobody could see. After the EM was invented these particles could still not be found in samples taken from sick people. That's when they invented the 'witchcraft' of cell cultures which require the use of monkey KIDNEY cells - which are known to breakdown to 'viruses'. Then genomics came along and added more hocus pocus with 'genomes' being assembled out of nothing and called 'viruses'.
If virology is not proper science (and it isn't) then everything downstream from virology is automatically invalidated also. The fundamental flaw of virology is the circular reasoning fallacy. They assume their samples contain viruses, and proceed from there.
Virologists have been offered an opportunity to prove their methods with a set of blinded experiments. This has really got their knickers in a twist.
As someone infected in early March 2020 who went on to develop Long Covid (mostly resolved at 27 months) that included severe gastrointestinal involvement, I find this research interesting. I would be curious of any research into how this might may have played out in patients — specifically in the disease course, short and long term, for people infected with SARS-CoV2.
So the researchers finally discovered something that my gut directly informed me about long ago, when I noticed that during a viral infection things often went awry in my gut.
Seriously, though, this is interesting and clarifying. I like clarifications. Thank you!
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Joomi - in case you are not aware, Steve Kirsch had a doc on his VSRF webinar a couple of months ago. She talked extensively about the gut microbiome.
🎯👏👏 thanks for drawing attention to these papers, I wouldn't have found them otherwise, as you said bit obscure journals compared to the usual publishing suspects.
I'd really like to see someone check the microbiome patterns of those vaccinated vs unvaccinated, plus BEFORE 2020 and AFTER 2020.
Could be more mutant drift than suggested.
Given our symbiotic relationship with the microbial world, I would hazard a guess that the bacteria etc, are intervening between SarsCov2 virae and ourselves from a benign perspective. Ie they maybe taking the damage for us, in an effort to minimise their hosts long term damage. Much like what they do with all the toxic substances in our food and environment. But let's hope so at least. The other alternative is far less appealing.
Joomi, of all the people writing complicated scientific analyses on Substack, your writing is the clearest. I’m going to become a paid subscriber.
even more important, if this is true, then the gut might be acting as a reservoir for ongoing infection esp in LC patients. and perhaps it would explain the role of Antibiotics like azithromycin and doxy in treatment of acute covid?
Dr. Robert Clancy's bio includes this statement:
"...the best way to create immunity against infection in the respiratory tract was to stimulate the gut immune system, whereby these activated cells migrate to the lung and make antibodies against organisms responsible for the infection."
See https://centrefordigestivediseases.com/team/professor-robert-llewellyn-clancy/
Does this support the possibility of fecal-oral transmission?
Or could explain the headlines about drug resistant GI bug going around.
Sabine Hazan, MD, is a gastroenterologist who studies this and has been shouting from the rooftops for almost 3 years that it’s all in the gut. I haven’t seen as much of her “shit” lately as I’m permanently banned from Twitter , but shes completed and has more studies in the works
Ethical Skeptic also noted the coincidence of the Midwest sludge spreading on the fields immediately preceded their massive spike in cases in fall 2020. The farms are assured that sludge (human poop) from waste water treatment plants are organic material for fertilizer and they spray it over the fields after the last crop harvests. In New England where I live, farmers use cow manure and spread it in the early spring as the snow melts. We don’t have the farms of that scale here! Happy for that.
Hi Joomi,
Thank you for sharing. I have posted about this last year, here
https://gettr.com/post/p17ugbg97cd
https://gettr.com/post/p1846qg710c
and here
https://gettr.com/post/p18eoyq548a
I do not find their evidence very convincing and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
And isn’t it interesting that there are studies showing the positive impact of drinking probiotic rich Kefir (fermented milk) - Kefir: A protective dietary supplementation against viral infection
Reham Samir Hamida et al. Biomed Pharmacother. 2021 Jan. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33186795/ To me, it is advisable to eat/drink natural probiotics to keep your gut biome in top shape so as to successfully fight against Covid & other pathogens. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35789583/
https://open.substack.com/pub/anandamide/p/curious-kittens?utm_source=direct&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Virology does not meet the basic criteria for science such as proper control experiments. When control experiments have been performed the results show evidence of a 'virus' (CPE / genome assembly) can be obtained without adding any sample containing a purported 'virus. For example Dr Stefan Lanka has 'found' the SARS CoV2 genome from a sample of pure yeast, using the exact same protocols and genomic assembly software that virologists use (Dr Lanka was himself a virologist until he realised viruses are just cellular debris).
Even kidney specialists have published articles warning virologists that the breakdown of kidney cells produces particles that are indistinguishable from 'coronaviruses'.
When you look at the history of viruses you find it was never scientific to begin with. It was a desperate attempt to prop up the already failing germ theory by inventing tiny pathogens that nobody could see. After the EM was invented these particles could still not be found in samples taken from sick people. That's when they invented the 'witchcraft' of cell cultures which require the use of monkey KIDNEY cells - which are known to breakdown to 'viruses'. Then genomics came along and added more hocus pocus with 'genomes' being assembled out of nothing and called 'viruses'.
If virology is not proper science (and it isn't) then everything downstream from virology is automatically invalidated also. The fundamental flaw of virology is the circular reasoning fallacy. They assume their samples contain viruses, and proceed from there.
Virologists have been offered an opportunity to prove their methods with a set of blinded experiments. This has really got their knickers in a twist.
https://drsambailey.com/resources/settling-the-virus-debate/
Couple that with a new study out about -dishwasher rinse aids -breaking down the gut epithelial layer https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(22)01477-4/fulltext
https://adirondackslakegeorgefreepress.wordpress.com/bioweapon-ban-all-bio-weapons-the-human-race-demands-it/ How Many Millions More will DIE
https://adirondackslakegeorgefreepress.wordpress.com/bioweapon-ban-all-bio-weapons-the-human-race-demands-it/